Intel's New Ad Compain

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Bill Caroselli

Intel's New Ad Compain

Post by Bill Caroselli » Thu Mar 06, 2003 7:20 pm

I noticed last night (it may have started sooner) Intel is advertising
that something *big* is going to be announced on March 12th.

According to the hype, it will not only change the way you work but
*where* you work.

Does anyone know what this is all about?

I hate it when they decide to rewrite the rules.

Peter Graves

Re: Intel's New Ad Compain

Post by Peter Graves » Thu Mar 06, 2003 7:20 pm

I wonder if they are talking about this:
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/ ... corp_a.htm
Basicly a mobile processor, and supporting chipset, including 802.11
support stuff.

Bill Caroselli wrote:
I noticed last night (it may have started sooner) Intel is advertising
that something *big* is going to be announced on March 12th.

According to the hype, it will not only change the way you work but
*where* you work.

Does anyone know what this is all about?

I hate it when they decide to rewrite the rules.

Robert Krten

Re: Intel's New Ad Compain

Post by Robert Krten » Thu Mar 06, 2003 7:21 pm

Bill Caroselli <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote:
I noticed last night (it may have started sooner) Intel is advertising
that something *big* is going to be announced on March 12th.

According to the hype, it will not only change the way you work but
*where* you work.

Does anyone know what this is all about?

I hate it when they decide to rewrite the rules.
I think they invented a CPU that works in a portable computer.
They are very, very smart.

Cheers,
-RK
--
Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316.
Realtime Systems Architecture, Books, Video-based and Instructor-led
Training and Consulting at www.parse.com.
Email my initials at parse dot com.

Bill Caroselli

Re: Intel's New Ad Compain

Post by Bill Caroselli » Thu Mar 06, 2003 8:00 pm

Peter Graves <pgraves@qnx.com> wrote:
I wonder if they are talking about this:
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/ ... corp_a.htm
Basicly a mobile processor, and supporting chipset, including 802.11
support stuff.
That looks like it.

Interesting name: Centrino

Kind of begs the question, How long until Centrino/Neutrino
combination?

Igor Kovalenko

Re: Intel's New Ad Compain

Post by Igor Kovalenko » Fri Mar 07, 2003 3:16 am

"Bill Caroselli" <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b489ca$rs0$1@inn.qnx.com...
Peter Graves <pgraves@qnx.com> wrote:
I wonder if they are talking about this:
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/ ... corp_a.htm
Basicly a mobile processor, and supporting chipset, including 802.11
support stuff.

That looks like it.

Interesting name: Centrino

Kind of begs the question, How long until Centrino/Neutrino
combination?
Quite long I am afraid. Neutrino does not have any power-management
features, which is all Centrino is about. I think it will take QNX longer
than to support CD-R. And we don't know yet how long the latter will take ;)

Guest

Re: Intel's New Ad Compain

Post by Guest » Fri Mar 07, 2003 4:43 pm

kovalenko@attbi.com sed in <b49224$o8s$1@inn.qnx.com>:
Quite long I am afraid. Neutrino does not have any power-management
features, which is all Centrino is about. I think it will take QNX longer
than to support CD-R.
Well supporting APM would be
1) whip up /dev/apm resource manager, polling APM events from BIOS
(supporting "cat /dev/apm/battery0" is useful on its own)
2) modify "shutdown" command to devctl("/dev/apm", DCMD_APM_SHUTDOWN)
sysmgr_reboot() should be called from APM resmgr.
3) modify DDK to register sleep/shutdown hooks when the
drivers want to be notified on APM events

1,2 could be done fairly easily.
The hard part is 3, which QSSL must take some kind of initiative
(or contracting customer who has $$$,manpower,and source code)


Actual needs for APM on embedded devices is an interesting topic.
--
kabe

Phil Olynyk

Re: Intel's New Ad Compain

Post by Phil Olynyk » Fri Mar 07, 2003 9:33 pm

Igor Kovalenko wrote:
"Bill Caroselli" <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b489ca$rs0$1@inn.qnx.com...
Peter Graves <pgraves@qnx.com> wrote:
I wonder if they are talking about this:
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/ ... corp_a.htm
Basicly a mobile processor, and supporting chipset, including 802.11
support stuff.

That looks like it.

Interesting name: Centrino

Kind of begs the question, How long until Centrino/Neutrino
combination?

Quite long I am afraid. Neutrino does not have any power-management
features, which is all Centrino is about. I think it will take QNX longer
than to support CD-R. And we don't know yet how long the latter will take ;)
Oh, maybe two weeks after they release the block device, scsi
pass-thru, CAM
DDK? Of course, we don't know when _that_ will be!

Phil Olynyk

Phil Olynyk

Re: Intel's New Ad Compain

Post by Phil Olynyk » Fri Mar 07, 2003 9:37 pm

If you consider that my Newton and Agenda VR3 are both battery powered
embedded systems, I should think the requirement is obvious... Or
consider
battery powered field data loggers, if you don't want to think of a PDA
as
an embedded system...

Phil Olynyk

kabe@sra-tohoku.co.jp wrote:
kovalenko@attbi.com sed in <b49224$o8s$1@inn.qnx.com>:

Quite long I am afraid. Neutrino does not have any power-management
features, which is all Centrino is about. I think it will take QNX longer
than to support CD-R.

Well supporting APM would be
1) whip up /dev/apm resource manager, polling APM events from BIOS
(supporting "cat /dev/apm/battery0" is useful on its own)
2) modify "shutdown" command to devctl("/dev/apm", DCMD_APM_SHUTDOWN)
sysmgr_reboot() should be called from APM resmgr.
3) modify DDK to register sleep/shutdown hooks when the
drivers want to be notified on APM events

1,2 could be done fairly easily.
The hard part is 3, which QSSL must take some kind of initiative
(or contracting customer who has $$$,manpower,and source code)

Actual needs for APM on embedded devices is an interesting topic.
--
kabe

Igor Kovalenko

Re: Intel's New Ad Compain

Post by Igor Kovalenko » Sat Mar 08, 2003 9:33 pm

<kabe@sra-tohoku.co.jp> wrote in message news:b4aha3$fd3$1@inn.qnx.com...
kovalenko@attbi.com sed in <b49224$o8s$1@inn.qnx.com>:

Quite long I am afraid. Neutrino does not have any power-management
features, which is all Centrino is about. I think it will take QNX
longer
than to support CD-R.

Well supporting APM would be
1) whip up /dev/apm resource manager, polling APM events from BIOS
(supporting "cat /dev/apm/battery0" is useful on its own)
2) modify "shutdown" command to devctl("/dev/apm", DCMD_APM_SHUTDOWN)
sysmgr_reboot() should be called from APM resmgr.
3) modify DDK to register sleep/shutdown hooks when the
drivers want to be notified on APM events

1,2 could be done fairly easily.
The hard part is 3, which QSSL must take some kind of initiative
(or contracting customer who has $$$,manpower,and source code)
All their drivers also have to be modified to make use of those hooks. If
the power saving mode in question implies loss of runtime state information,
then drivers have to save their state and state of hardware, then restore it
upon wakeup.
Actual needs for APM on embedded devices is an interesting topic.
Embedded devices are easier to deal with than general case (like PC) because
you have a predefined hardware environment. APM is obsolete though.

-- igor

kneekoo

Re: Intel's New Ad Compain

Post by kneekoo » Fri Apr 11, 2003 9:20 am

I think they invented a CPU that works in a portable computer.
They are very, very smart.

Cheers,
-RK
LOL !!

They will probably invent the wireless processor :P Who knows ?

Bill Caroselli

Re: Intel's New Ad Compain

Post by Bill Caroselli » Mon Apr 14, 2003 6:01 pm

kneekoo <nicu@azomures.com> wrote:
I think they invented a CPU that works in a portable computer.
They are very, very smart.

Cheers,
-RK

LOL !!

They will probably invent the wireless processor :P Who knows ?
Ah yes. The next generation after SMT (surface mount technology).
NMT (no mount technology)

But you do have to hold it near the keyboard.

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