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Post by Guest » Fri Aug 08, 2003 3:46 pm

Really, these newsgroups are completely illogical.
OK ok illogical is strong, but this is *advocacy after all ;-)
-there is too much overlap: *qnxrtp.os vs*.applications,
qdn.public.devtools vs *.qnxrtp.devtools
-some groups are too general e.g. *.qnxrtp.photon
-tcpip is covered only in ddk.network. Not all network
problems are ddk problems.

QUICS had about the right mix, as far I can remember.
hardware other voyager
c ica phindows vsdk
c++ iedit photon wprof
daq kernel qnx2 x
dev net qwindows
ditto neutrino rundos
ekit neutrino2 tcpip
fsys news utils


Granted, it had fewer areas to cover, but I keep on
having to painfully search through inn.qnx.com
(there is no global search facility that I can find)
and do so on several NGs because of the overlap.

Case in point:there have been several posts about cdrecord.
But in which group: *.os? *.applications? *.neutrino?

It's time for a restructuring...

Frank Liu

Re: inn.qnx.com newsgroups

Post by Frank Liu » Fri Aug 08, 2003 3:51 pm

don't worry. the rumor says the newsgroups (nntp server) will
go away and be replaced by the web based forum (eg: phpbb).
I am sure they will listen to your suggestions as what
forums to create.

frank

acellarius@yahoo.com wrote:
Really, these newsgroups are completely illogical.
OK ok illogical is strong, but this is *advocacy after all ;-)
-there is too much overlap: *qnxrtp.os vs*.applications,
qdn.public.devtools vs *.qnxrtp.devtools
-some groups are too general e.g. *.qnxrtp.photon
-tcpip is covered only in ddk.network. Not all network
problems are ddk problems.

QUICS had about the right mix, as far I can remember.
hardware other voyager
c ica phindows vsdk
c++ iedit photon wprof
daq kernel qnx2 x
dev net qwindows
ditto neutrino rundos
ekit neutrino2 tcpip
fsys news utils


Granted, it had fewer areas to cover, but I keep on
having to painfully search through inn.qnx.com
(there is no global search facility that I can find)
and do so on several NGs because of the overlap.

Case in point:there have been several posts about cdrecord.
But in which group: *.os? *.applications? *.neutrino?

It's time for a restructuring...

Kevin Stallard

Re: inn.qnx.com newsgroups

Post by Kevin Stallard » Fri Aug 08, 2003 6:22 pm

Speaking of internet collaboration, what happen to the IRC servers? Both
irc.joher.com AND irc.qnxzone.com seem to be down. I knew qnxzone.com was
having problems...but joher.com as well? Has the Frenchman finaly flipped?
;)

Kevin

<acellarius@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3F33C5E6.CC7A2955@yahoo.com...
Really, these newsgroups are completely illogical.
OK ok illogical is strong, but this is *advocacy after all ;-)
-there is too much overlap: *qnxrtp.os vs*.applications,
qdn.public.devtools vs *.qnxrtp.devtools
-some groups are too general e.g. *.qnxrtp.photon
-tcpip is covered only in ddk.network. Not all network
problems are ddk problems.

QUICS had about the right mix, as far I can remember.
hardware other voyager
c ica phindows vsdk
c++ iedit photon wprof
daq kernel qnx2 x
dev net qwindows
ditto neutrino rundos
ekit neutrino2 tcpip
fsys news utils


Granted, it had fewer areas to cover, but I keep on
having to painfully search through inn.qnx.com
(there is no global search facility that I can find)
and do so on several NGs because of the overlap.

Case in point:there have been several posts about cdrecord.
But in which group: *.os? *.applications? *.neutrino?

It's time for a restructuring...

Bill Caroselli

Re: inn.qnx.com newsgroups

Post by Bill Caroselli » Fri Aug 08, 2003 6:25 pm

Frank Liu <fliu@mail.vipstage.com> wrote:
FL > don't worry. the rumor says the newsgroups (nntp server) will
FL > go away and be replaced by the web based forum (eg: phpbb).
FL > I am sure they will listen to your suggestions as what
FL > forums to create.

FL > frank

NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many times has QSSL *SWORN* that this is the last time they were
going to change their newsgroups? QUICS worked. People wrote tools
to access it. Poor Mitch was even selling a tool to access QUICS.
I wrote tools to access QUICS. Then QUICS went away.

Now I finally have a whole suite of tools for accessing the
inn.qnx.com newsgroups. I can finally find what I'm looking for.

PLEASE DON'T MAKE EVERYONE THROW THEIR SOFTWARE AWAY - AGAIN !!!


FL > acellarius@yahoo.com wrote:
Really, these newsgroups are completely illogical.
OK ok illogical is strong, but this is *advocacy after all ;-)
-there is too much overlap: *qnxrtp.os vs*.applications,
qdn.public.devtools vs *.qnxrtp.devtools
-some groups are too general e.g. *.qnxrtp.photon
-tcpip is covered only in ddk.network. Not all network
problems are ddk problems.

QUICS had about the right mix, as far I can remember.
hardware other voyager
c ica phindows vsdk
c++ iedit photon wprof
daq kernel qnx2 x
dev net qwindows
ditto neutrino rundos
ekit neutrino2 tcpip
fsys news utils


Granted, it had fewer areas to cover, but I keep on
having to painfully search through inn.qnx.com
(there is no global search facility that I can find)
and do so on several NGs because of the overlap.

Case in point:there have been several posts about cdrecord.
But in which group: *.os? *.applications? *.neutrino?

It's time for a restructuring...
Regarding this, I do agree. The QUICS conferences were
much better organized.

--
Bill Caroselli -- Q-TPS Consulting
1-(626) 824-7983
qtps@earthlink.net

Guest

Re: inn.qnx.com newsgroups

Post by Guest » Fri Aug 08, 2003 9:07 pm

Kevin Stallard <kevin@fffflyingrobbbotsss.com> wrote:
Speaking of internet collaboration, what happen to the IRC servers? Both
irc.joher.com AND irc.qnxzone.com seem to be down. I knew qnxzone.com was
having problems...but joher.com as well? Has the Frenchman finaly flipped?
The server for irc.qnxzone.com was operated by astra network, who had to shut
down the server when they moved locations. To make the transition smooth, the
DNS for irc.qnxzone.com (which actually pointed at qnxzone.astranetwork.com) was
changed to point to irc.joher.com. There are still plans to bring up another
server for north america, at which time we will update the DNS for irc.qnxzone.com
to point at the north american server. Until then, there is only one server, which
is irc.joher.com, and it is offline for unknown reasons.

Maybe someone can phone the frenchman?

Cheers,
Camz.

--
Martin Zimmerman camz@passageway.com
Camz Software Enterprises www.passageway.com/camz/qnx/
QNX Programming & Consulting www.qnxzone.com

Frank Liu

Re: inn.qnx.com newsgroups

Post by Frank Liu » Fri Aug 08, 2003 11:28 pm

Kevin Stallard <kevin@fffflyingrobbbotsss.com> wrote:
Speaking of internet collaboration, what happen to the IRC servers? Both
irc.joher.com AND irc.qnxzone.com seem to be down. I knew qnxzone.com was
having problems...but joher.com as well? Has the Frenchman finaly flipped?
;)
Have you tried irc.openqnx.com ?
a temperary irc server was setup while waiting for the official one
to come back online.

Robert Krten

Re: inn.qnx.com newsgroups

Post by Robert Krten » Sat Aug 09, 2003 11:53 am

Frank Liu <fliu@mail.vipstage.com> wrote:
don't worry. the rumor says the newsgroups (nntp server) will
go away and be replaced by the web based forum (eg: phpbb).
I am sure they will listen to your suggestions as what
forums to create.
Any idea how we archive that? NNTP is so simple. They should
maintain an NNTP personality for the web-based forums so that
those of us with batch-oriented mentalities can get our stuff
without having to have a GUI running and pointing and clicking
just to read something...

Cheers,
-RK
frank

acellarius@yahoo.com wrote:
Really, these newsgroups are completely illogical.
OK ok illogical is strong, but this is *advocacy after all ;-)
-there is too much overlap: *qnxrtp.os vs*.applications,
qdn.public.devtools vs *.qnxrtp.devtools
-some groups are too general e.g. *.qnxrtp.photon
-tcpip is covered only in ddk.network. Not all network
problems are ddk problems.

QUICS had about the right mix, as far I can remember.
hardware other voyager
c ica phindows vsdk
c++ iedit photon wprof
daq kernel qnx2 x
dev net qwindows
ditto neutrino rundos
ekit neutrino2 tcpip
fsys news utils


Granted, it had fewer areas to cover, but I keep on
having to painfully search through inn.qnx.com
(there is no global search facility that I can find)
and do so on several NGs because of the overlap.

Case in point:there have been several posts about cdrecord.
But in which group: *.os? *.applications? *.neutrino?

It's time for a restructuring...
--
[If replying via email, you'll need to click on the URL that's emailed to you
afterwards to forward the email to me -- spam filters and all that]
Robert Krten, PDP minicomputer collector http://www.parse.com/~pdp8/

Jutta Steinhoff

Re: inn.qnx.com newsgroups

Post by Jutta Steinhoff » Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:42 pm

I assume a restructuring of the NGs will take some time,
so a first step could be to freeze the following NGs :

qdn.public.qnxrtp.porting
qdn.public.qnxrtp.devtools
qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation
qdn.public.qnxrtp.photon
qdn.public.qnxrtp.newuser

The remaining NGs could be enough:
qdn.public.porting
qdn.public.devtools
qdn.public.installation
qdn.public.photon
qdn.public.newuser
From my understanding, QNX RTP is outdated, so the rest of
qdn.public.qnxrtp.xy groups could be renamed w/o "qnxrtp"
or in qdn.public.qnx6.xy

- Jutta



Frank Liu wrote:
don't worry. the rumor says the newsgroups (nntp server) will
go away and be replaced by the web based forum (eg: phpbb).
I am sure they will listen to your suggestions as what
forums to create.

frank

acellarius@yahoo.com wrote:
Really, these newsgroups are completely illogical.
OK ok illogical is strong, but this is *advocacy after all ;-)
-there is too much overlap: *qnxrtp.os vs*.applications,
qdn.public.devtools vs *.qnxrtp.devtools
-some groups are too general e.g. *.qnxrtp.photon
-tcpip is covered only in ddk.network. Not all network
problems are ddk problems.

QUICS had about the right mix, as far I can remember.
hardware other voyager
c ica phindows vsdk
c++ iedit photon wprof
daq kernel qnx2 x
dev net qwindows
ditto neutrino rundos
ekit neutrino2 tcpip
fsys news utils


Granted, it had fewer areas to cover, but I keep on
having to painfully search through inn.qnx.com
(there is no global search facility that I can find)
and do so on several NGs because of the overlap.

Case in point:there have been several posts about cdrecord.
But in which group: *.os? *.applications? *.neutrino?

It's time for a restructuring...

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